--- title: Podcast- Building a More Agile Talent Acquisition Model at Gallo description: In Episode 3 of Try Harder Is Not a Strategy, John Vlastelica sits down with Blair Bennett, SVP of Talent Acquisition at PepsiCo, for a deep conversation about the future of TA. image: https://blog.recruitingtoolbox.com/hubfs/Try%20Harder%20is%20not%20a%20strategy_900x900%20(2).png --- [![RT-Logo-400x282-1](https://blog.recruitingtoolbox.com/hubfs/RT-Logo-400x282-1.png)](https://recruitingtoolbox.com/) - [Training](https://recruitingtoolbox.com/training/) - CUSTOM-BUILT TRAINING FOR RECRUITERS & RECRUITING MANAGERS - [Overview](https://recruitingtoolbox.com/training/) - [Talent Advisor Training POPULAR](https://recruitingtoolbox.com/training/talent-advisor-training/) - [Recruiting Leadership Training](https://recruitingtoolbox.com/training/recruiting-leadership-training/) - [Diversity Recruiting Training](https://recruitingtoolbox.com/training/diversity-recruiting-training/) - [Selling and Closing Training](https://recruitingtoolbox.com/training/selling-closing-training/) - 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[Contact](https://recruitingtoolbox.com/contact/) # Recruiting Toolbox Blog # Podcast- Building a More Agile Talent Acquisition Model at Gallo [Recruiting Toolbox](https://blog.recruitingtoolbox.com/blog/author/recruiting-toolbox) September 29, 2026 📽️ New episode of John Vlastelica’s *Try Harder is Not a Strategy* podcast! John talks with Ryan Cook, Head of Talent Acquisition at Gallo, about building a more agile TA model in a rapidly changing business. They explore squad-based recruiting, automation, candidate experience, and how to balance AI with human judgment. At Gallo, the new model helped reduce time to offer acceptance by 37%, automate 18 manual processes, and reduce the overall TA budget by 8%. Thank you to Paradox for partnering to bring this series to life. 🎧 Listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, or watch on YouTube. 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